tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post2034978500123041853..comments2024-03-28T16:08:29.578-04:00Comments on Sardonicky: The New Meaning of Labor DayKaren Garciahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15612731479365562803noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-48366772344939877552016-09-07T17:13:57.199-04:002016-09-07T17:13:57.199-04:00RE: "Of course, he only talked about American...RE: "Of course, he only talked about American workers, not the suicide risks in China who make the Apple products that enrich Steve Jobs's widow, who in turn hosted a $200,000-a-person fundraiser for Hillary Clinton to ensure that those Apple jobs will never come to our shores and pay workers anything close to a living wage."<br /><br />I never fully understood why some people stopped at nothing to accumulate vast wealth, when in the end it is a fool's errand: You can't take it with you.Neilhttp://www.nosue.org/2016-election/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-50292356941215942662016-09-06T17:17:40.097-04:002016-09-06T17:17:40.097-04:00For Labor Day one of the PBS stations showed The A...<br />For Labor Day one of the PBS stations showed The American Experience –the Mine Wars. An eye opening documentary that included the character Mary Harris "Mother" Jones— “a notorious labor organizer known as "the miner's angel," and a self-proclaimed "hellraiser."<br /><br />I only knew the magazine title, Mother Jones. <br /><br />The miners battled with private police forces of the mine owners---armies on horseback to put down strikers. State, then federal troops were called out, supporting the owners. Not ‘til the 30s Depression were unions given rights. <br /><br />I've seen quotes from both FDR and Gop Pres Ike in the ‘50s, saying that if they were workers they’d join unions. Times change. What US pres would say that today?<br /><br />The PBS program intro: “ In the first two decades of the 20th century, coal miners and coal companies in West Virginia clashed in a series of brutal conflicts over labor conditions and unionization. Known collectively as the "Mine Wars," the struggle included strikes, assassinations, marches, and the largest civil insurrection in the United States since the Civil War.<br /><br />Coal was the engine of American industrial progress at the beginning of the 20th century.”<br /><br />Most people grow up in the US totally unaware of our past labor union history. <br />Meredith NYCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-74082736438799531992016-09-06T16:46:07.873-04:002016-09-06T16:46:07.873-04:00Karen....Innuendo is right.
But a few replies to ...<br />Karen....Innuendo is right. <br />But a few replies to your comment were positive. ScottW said....<br />@Karen: Great comment. You know it is a good comment when you have so many pro-Hillary people go after you.<br /><br />I said.....Talk about false innuendo.....Re Sanders and tuition free college---Krugman never once mentioned that the US had free or low cost public colleges for decades---tax supported--and it was one of the main builders of the middle class. Hardly a policy from a "deluded, quixotic naif." It was centrist!<br /><br />(I should add.....How many voters even know this? This is the US media denying or rewriting our own history—Soviet style.)<br /><br />But I have seen a change in the comments to avid Clinton partisans, even from some old, informed, smart commenters who have lost any objectivity. But also maybe some are new, who didn’t comment much before--don’t know. <br /><br />But they excuse all, blind to any Clinton drawback, so Krugman’s column would attract them. Fear of Trumpf is the big excuse. There’s a reason why most Krug columns simply bash the Gop rw crazies, and propose nothing for the Dems. So easy. For this we have a Nobel winner on the op ed page? <br />Meredith NYCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-90836154175194618302016-09-06T01:48:29.308-04:002016-09-06T01:48:29.308-04:00All kinds of work out there to be worked. Like wo...All kinds of work out there to be worked. Like working on the inside to reform the Democratic Party.<br /><br />The great left hope, Tim Canova, lost resoundingly in the primaries to Debbie Wasserman, 43% to 56%. Now will he consider working on the outside?<br /><br />Likewise, Representative Alan Grayson got a twofer, maybe a threefer, of the unwelcome kind. He lost his House seat in running for the Senate and lost badly in the senatorial primaries to fellow congressman Patrick Murphy, 18% to 59%. As if that didn't hurt enough, his new wife ran in the primaries to take his former seat in the House, but she lost too. Given his social history, I'm not sure which third party will accept him if he decides to work outside.<br /><br />The Democratic Party: where progressives from Vermont to Florida go to sell out or just fade away.Jay–Ottawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10360356126450612113noreply@blogger.com