tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post2374190208215203605..comments2024-03-28T16:08:29.578-04:00Comments on Sardonicky: Debate & Switch... Ad InfinitumKaren Garciahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15612731479365562803noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-66471976558514631262016-10-11T21:57:52.744-04:002016-10-11T21:57:52.744-04:00I think it is really important that our response t...I think it is really important that our response to Trump (scary idiot) and Hillary (corrupt sociopath) isn't to not go to the polls or not vote for a presidential candidate. We must cast a vote for a third party candidate. At this point in time, it is our only hope. Yet all around me, my Leftist friends are drinking the cool aide and saying they will hold their nose and vote for Hill or Trump. We must stand strong and get Stein as many votes as possible. We have to force the Democratic Party to acknowledge that they have to do more than offer us the Lesser Evilism meme. Valerienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-73667831341876697872016-10-11T19:56:11.796-04:002016-10-11T19:56:11.796-04:00Thank you Jay for a caring comment about what a re...Thank you Jay for a caring comment about what a real man is truly like in their attitudes to women.<br /><br />I only wish you would give Bernie some slack and recognize that he is a mentch in that regard. Russ Feingold is within winning Wisconsin with Bernie's help and as Trump has said no one is perfect or something to that effect.<br /><br />I have not voted for anyone for President. Pearlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-84824826117114464912016-10-11T16:53:41.133-04:002016-10-11T16:53:41.133-04:00@ the Sisterhood
I am not now, nor have I ever be...@ the Sisterhood<br /><br />I am not now, nor have I ever been, living a sheltered life. And I've been in lots of men's locker rooms. What I am about to say is anecdotal, of course, but I must say, in defense of the Brotherhood, I've never heard men in locker rooms talk about women as it's now being depicted half the male population do. Locker rooms are not free-fire zones where anything goes.<br /><br />And if some jerk, like a Trump, were to carry on loudly about his vile exploits against women, he would most likely be told to STFU. Sure, some men are crude, but most guys respect their sisters, mothers, wives, co-workers and even, as a general principle, women they still haven't met. Trump gets attention because he is a very strange outlier with a megaphone.<br /><br />In the entertainment business––to which we are subjected for hours every day––crime and depravity sell better than decency. Movies, magazines, TVs and blowhards are paid to shock and entertain with their fantasies and phantasmagoria. Those media forms usually distort reality about men––and women.<br /><br />On the life and death issue before us, I agree with Annenigma. If I were backed into a corner and forced to vote for one or the other, Trump or Clinton, I would pull the lever for Trump. For the same reason she mentioned: Clinton is more likely to drag this country into confrontation and war. The next big war stands a good chance of sending us fast forward into the Sixth Extinction.<br /><br />TomDispatch (see blog roll) just posted an interesting assessment of the forces, mainly Russian and Chinese, building up fast against the neocon insistence that the USA rule the world. <br /><br />Trump is riding a meteor soon to flame out in the sky; Hillary, on the other hand, really is from Mars.<br /><br />Jill: the way to say 'No' to both evils.Jay–Ottawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10360356126450612113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-78616723129243999162016-10-11T15:23:33.582-04:002016-10-11T15:23:33.582-04:00Speaking of Liz Spayd, has anyone commented about ...Speaking of Liz Spayd, has anyone commented about the downgrade of the Public Editor link on the Opinions page, how it now requires extensive scrolling to the bottom of the page and is in a small font?voice-in-wildernessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-40835158816000005022016-10-11T13:52:38.777-04:002016-10-11T13:52:38.777-04:00@annenigma - re: no worse under The Donald.
I&#...@annenigma - re: no worse under The Donald. <br /><br />I'm tickled by the notion of Trump, propped up as a dummy candidate for Hillary to easily defeat, accidentally winning the election somehow. stranger in a strange landnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-61829547862244063402016-10-11T12:45:42.783-04:002016-10-11T12:45:42.783-04:00Karen - I'm with you on the emails, and so muc...Karen - I'm with you on the emails, and so much else. In this sickening season of our collective demise, at least I can get some enjoyment from the emails - a written record of these despicable people. I really wish people just wouldn't vote this year. That the turnout would be so low, that there was no legitimate claim to the presidency. Or, that the votes for Stein and/or Johnson were earthshaking. Just something to shake it all up. But then again, the rulers always take away the wrong "lessons" from their shellacking in elections. Stop the world, I want to get off.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14929471051591824542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-21933714597978437542016-10-11T12:41:10.661-04:002016-10-11T12:41:10.661-04:00Can you imagine how easy it will be for Hillary to...Can you imagine how easy it will be for Hillary to engage us in any wars her little heart desires, given that she has the entire corporate media promoting, enabling, and protecting her already? <br /><br />It's a feeling that's all too familiar, like how the media legitimized and promulgated the WMD lie for the Iraq war. Now they're making Putin out to be a menace, a threat to our very democracy, and Trump his stooge. Joe McCarthy is alive and well and cloning himself daily. <br /><br />Hillary Clinton is a WMD. She's destroying our country and democracy to get power. <br /><br />By the way, from my experience, Trump talks like half of adult men in our country act, not to mention most of Italy. And is anyone addressing the objectification and sexualization of women to sell products and capture men's attention? There's a lot more to talk about than one businessman's braggadocio. Why hasn't Hillary been on the forefront of that in the past 30 years? <br /><br />If every politician condemning Trump was publicly confronted by ALL the women they've made crude passes at and sexually harassed over they years, we'd have a whole new Congress in short order.annenigmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-1570097654295579442016-10-11T11:50:16.748-04:002016-10-11T11:50:16.748-04:00Thanks, all.
The Wikileaks Podesta emails are a h...Thanks, all.<br /><br />The Wikileaks Podesta emails are a hoot. Very much of a piece with the SONY leaks, which also exposed the neediness and careerism of the ruling class racketeers operating in the Hollywood/D.C./Wall Street nexus, and the lesser gods in the media and campaign operations hive. Hillary is exposed as not much more than a marketing creation-by-committee, a persona whose bellicose and socially conservative worldview must be constantly hidden and reined in. She has a deep aversion to gay rights,to a living wage and to world peace. We knew all of this, but now we REALLY know.<br /><br />So now they're desperately portraying Trump as a serial rapist rather than as just one more needy blowhard with a castration phobia who puts down women in front of other men to make himself feel good. He and Bill Clinton really are two raptors of a feather, but Bill is smart enough to keep his pathology to himself these days. Give me a graphic tape of Donnie and Bill partying with convicted predator Jeff Epstein on the Lolita Express, and my day will be utterly complete.Karen Garciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15612731479365562803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-76954395219292936122016-10-11T10:37:02.628-04:002016-10-11T10:37:02.628-04:00Sometimes there are 'Hard Choices' to be m...Sometimes there are 'Hard Choices' to be made at election time, and mine comes down to this: Don't Feed The Beast. <br /><br />I'm convinced that Trump, despite his crudeness, bombast, etc. is actually the lesser of two evils. I've come to that conclusion after reading the latest Wikileaks emails. No wonder Clinton, Inc. is so desperate to portray those emails as being faked, and by Putin no less. Those emails aren't phony but Hillary definitely is. From subverting FOIA laws by using a private email server to hiding evidence of backroom deals, to destroying subpoenaed evidence, to subverting campaign laws and tilting the primary election tables in her favor, she's got corruption down to a science but condemns Trump for exploiting legal tax loopholes. What a hypocrite. <br /><br />We're finally seeing her true colors thanks to Wikileaks. Hillary's global imperial ambitions are the same as Obama's, which are the same as Bush's. <br /><br />Neera Tandan, one of Hillary's generals, had a comment in the emails that points to who's important when she responded to a question about if they should come out in support of the $15/hour wage. She responded that since they weren't getting any pressure from their political allies, they wouldn't support it. So if ALL the Bernie supporters and Dems in general aren't instrumental in determining policy, who is? The Great White globalists (men) of course, the owners who sit in the skybox, investing money in their star player and writing their own rules so they always win on the national and global stage. <br /><br />Trump actually did better than expected during the debate given the circumstances. Instead of being on the ropes, it was Hillary who was. She dodged, weaved, and did word-dances around several questions. She didn't land any punches but Trump did, particularly when she set him up by stating how it's a good thing he isn't in charge of the judiciary. He hit it out of the park when he finishing her sentence by saying "because you'd be in jail" for deleting subpoenaed emails. <br /><br />Another jig she did was around a question about Bill's comment about the ACA being a big mess, and another about her being two-faced with a public and private position and claiming she was modeling that on Honest Abe. Trump also asked why Hillary didn't use any of her own wealth to run for office instead of allowing herself to become beholden to fat cat donors. At least Obama had a legitimate excuse for temporarily selling himself into slavery to the GWM in exchange for lifetime wealth and fame. We know Obama made his own private deals just as Hillary has. He's still fighting for the TPP on their behalf. Hillary will do the same, you can take that to the bank. <br /><br />The Great White globalists who control everything have already paid for their ride on the Beast with Hillary at the reins, but they don't even have a ticket to ride with Trump. That's great. I'm willing to let them sit stalled for the next 4 years while Trump tries to get his fat ass in gear. They'll try to give him instructions and lessons which he will not take or learn from and Congress will be in gridlock. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Hillary will get things done because she knows how to wield power, make dirty deals, and keep secrets. That's what scares me. <br /><br />I don't believe for a moment that we will be worse off in the next 4 years if Trump gets elected. <br /><br />Remember, the Beast eats it's young.annenigmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-70115969978783799672016-10-10T17:55:11.801-04:002016-10-10T17:55:11.801-04:00In the 2nd debate I was wishing Hillary would turn...In the 2nd debate I was wishing Hillary would turn to the lurking/looming Trump and just say, "Donald, sit!" -- while pointing to his chair. voice-in-wildernessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-26861442511534884172016-10-10T15:06:59.067-04:002016-10-10T15:06:59.067-04:00Meredith, I've followed him closely for years ...Meredith, I've followed him closely for years and believe he has absolutely no respect for the DNC (which took over after the cleansing post-Watergate election). And he respects a few Republicans although I am at a loss to remember exactly whom right now.<br /><br />Karen, you are the most perceptive, incisive and quotable blogger ever. Thanks for always getting out there ahead of the pack (and for running your responses on MSM sites). <br /><br />I'd like to see your take on the coincidences that transpire around the releases of Wikileaks and other data on Hillygate and the available video on years-old Trumpgate data. Some others have put this together pretty finely (as well as adding lots of other interesting historical political coincidences), but your prose would be invaluable. I see it as a national service.<br /><br />Go Jill!<br /><br />Cirzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070125217972397204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-59944075896126122592016-10-10T14:54:32.117-04:002016-10-10T14:54:32.117-04:00I don't think it was a wash. Trump kicked Hill...I don't think it was a wash. Trump kicked Hillary's war-mongering ass all the way to Tuesday. I did score the first debate for Hill.Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188981127650112105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-86072804905522931542016-10-10T06:43:02.125-04:002016-10-10T06:43:02.125-04:00To the relief of the Duopoly and their press agent...To the relief of the Duopoly and their press agents, this campaign is not about ideas, about programs, about taxes, about wars. It's about the mutual character assassination of two celebrities––Clinton the Imposter vs Trump the Lecher. By contrast, Bernie Sanders, at least for a while, got into the subject of the economy, if nothing else.<br /><br />It should be clear by now that, whether by deep-state design or simple happenstance, issues of personal conduct have eliminated the need for either party to debate policy. It's the wikileaked emails and the open mics, stupid. Neither candidate is noble, and their policies differ only to the extent that worser is different from worsest. Who knew?<br /><br />What we need is a candidate who, like Bernie, will attract crowds by raising real issues, but who, unlike Bernie, will be all in until the end. Ah, Bernie, Bernie, passion that fades like a paper blaze can only turn love to scorn.<br /><br />Give Jill Stein 5% on November 8, and next time we just might have a fighter who won't stop hammering the bastards, on real issues, until the final bell.Jay–Ottawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10360356126450612113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-5559780408035091242016-10-10T02:21:38.997-04:002016-10-10T02:21:38.997-04:00Karen,
How you manage to pull all this together ri...Karen,<br />How you manage to pull all this together right after the debate is impressive. <br />David Cay Johnston has been great, exposing detailed Trumpf history. He gave a particularly good talk on cspan to a big audience at Politics and Prose Bookstore in DC. See video. <br />But what surprised me --- he said he is a registered Republican. Someone asked him why, and he gave a very indirect answer---can't recall what he said exactly. Left me puzzled.<br /><br />So I wonder what his real belief system is, that he would register with the party that pushes unregulated capitalism, and rw tax and regulation policies that has enabled Trump types to cheat and get rich off other people. <br /><br /><br />Meredith NYCnoreply@blogger.com