tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post8139800443072456486..comments2024-03-28T16:08:29.578-04:00Comments on Sardonicky: Smart Money, Stupid Money, and FlatulenceKaren Garciahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15612731479365562803noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-20946584329430104922016-06-23T16:26:44.646-04:002016-06-23T16:26:44.646-04:00Adam Johnson of FAIR, Fairness and Accuracy in Rep...Adam Johnson of FAIR, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, writes<br /><br />"In Nine Democratic Debates, Not a Single Question About Poverty"<br /><br />http://fair.org/home/in-nine-democratic-debates-not-a-single-question-about-poverty/<br /><br />"A FAIR analysis of all nine democratic debates over the past seven months shows that not one question was asked about poverty."<br /><br />Politics is a very dirty business, and I commend Karen for her writing and tireless efforts in opposition to the American political shitstorm, including any artistic license involved. <br /><br />This is a good opportunity to weigh the merits of blog posts characterized as "adolescent vulgarity" vs. "the very highest levels of sober discourse" and the First Amendment, that states, <br /><br />"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."<br /><br />Our system generally allows freedom of speech, including highbrow or lowbrow political speech, because neither form of discourse as generally expressed is a threat to the establishment, which is ensconced in, and protected by, a legal system complete with its own language, words that may sound like the English language spoken by Americans, but is not the language of nonlawyers. <br /><br />Take for example this part of Karen’s post, <br /><br />"This move came right on the heels of the Congressional Black Caucus vowing to fight Sanders's proposal to abolish the super-delegate system, in which both elected officials and unelected donors and lobbyists get weighted votes to put establishment candidates over the top in intra-party contests. The CBC is also vehemently against holding open primaries in states that currently bar Republican and independent voters from casting ballots in Democratic primary contests. "We wouldn't want to have to run against our own constituents," protested Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.), somewhat feebly and undemocratically."<br /><br />Some of you refer to the super-delegate system as evidence that our election process is "rigged". This is correct in a nonlawyer way, but "rigged" is a word with little significance in the legal system. If you look around, there has been significant pushback by the media toward those who call our election process "rigged". <br /><br />In my view the super-delegate system, inter alia, makes our election process "unconstitutional". Our legal system recognizes the word "unconstitutional" and has rules for challenging "unconstitutional" statutes, for example. See Rule 5.1. Constitutional Challenge to a Statute, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_5.1<br /><br />States may have their own rules for challenging "unconstitutional" statutes, for example in Florida, Fla. Civ. R. Pro. 1.071 Constitutional Challenge To State Statute or County or Municipal Charter, Ordinance, or Franchise; Notice by Party"<br /><br />I am not a lawyer, I did not attend law school, and this is not legal advice. But I know enough to see that complaining about a "rigged" election process is futile. <br /><br />Therefore, Fart Proudly, and challenge our unconstitutional election process. <br /><br />Ben Franklin - Fart Proudly <br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fart_Proudly<br /><br />In the Archives: Fart Proudly by Benjamin Franklin (1781)<br />https://humorinamerica.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/fart-proudly/Neilhttp://nosueorg.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-73382702242354658702016-06-22T16:11:18.158-04:002016-06-22T16:11:18.158-04:00From the 'pure sniper' here.....
Wow, hats...From the 'pure sniper' here.....<br />Wow, hats off to the brilliant sarcasm of these posts today. And you’re right, Taibbi is hardly a model of good taste in some of his posts! Meredith NYCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-77561071617931094202016-06-22T10:35:12.849-04:002016-06-22T10:35:12.849-04:00Meredith,
Duh... the whole subject of the post wa...Meredith,<br /><br />Duh... the whole subject of the post was the vulgarity you assume I am wallowing in as a result of my own arrested development. I suppose you'd also call Ben Franklin and Mark Twain similarly immature for occasionally engaging in scatology to make their political points, huh? Andy, the previous poster, already pointed out that Matt Taibbi, to his great credit, is not exactly a model of p.c. linguistic restraint himself. He commonly refers to slimy politicians as assholes and dicks, for example. Of course, the whole point of Rolling Stone is gonzo journalism. It ain't exactly the Times, nor does it aspire to be.<br /><br />If you were simply being humorous or ironic, I apologize to you - but your comment comes across as pure sniping, in the vein of the Clinton trolls scolding the Bernie Bros for their alleged immaturity and sore loser-dom. I really doubt if Tiger Beat would accept my post for publication, since it fails to mention Taylor Swift. So with all due respect, I believe that I will cling as relentlessly to my "bitterness" as Obama once accused poor white trash of clinging to their guns and religion. At least I always try to maintain my sense of humor to offset my unbecoming rage. <br /><br />And as far as my NYT comments go, I admit that although I self-censor at times, my missives have been summarily erased on more than one occasion, on grounds of bad taste.<br /><br />Re the Dems, if you skim thru my recent blog entries, you might find the one where I already wrote about the inclusion of Cornel West and others on the platform committee, as a sop to Bernie Sanders. Due to my immature bitterness, I can't be bothered to supply a link at this time. Karen Garciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15612731479365562803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-76859351890303682202016-06-22T02:22:59.651-04:002016-06-22T02:22:59.651-04:00I totally agree with Miss Manners that the bean-in...I totally agree with Miss Manners that the bean-induced phart-in in Filadelfia is a gross-out––not only the event itself but talk about the event. The people who will suffer the most are the participants themselves. Call them suicide bombers. Don't applaud them The enormous methane release will be anti-environmental, hastening us to the dread tipping point into feedback loops ending with the Sixth Extinction. You really want to go there?<br /><br />The authorities, being amply informed by the perpetrators, will protect more refined people by letting loose with tear gas as soon as the phlatulents can be kettled a few blocks away from the Wells Phargo Center. Scatological violence never works. Recall the spankings when you and your siblings tried to gross out your parents? Establishment blowback is always more potent.<br /><br />What I would recommend, if I were a former vice-president of something, would be the use of the other end of the gastro-intestinal tract to make a point. Participants will not harm themselves or others if they resort to the good old Bronx Cheer. If teachers in gym class could never catch us doing it when their backs were turned, neither will the authorities. Mockery is powerful.<br /><br />Imagine if, during the middle of a congressional hearing about Hillary's Libya involvement or her email lapses, someone in the gallery kept blowing the raspberry whenever she spoke. The Bronx Cheer is nonviolent, odor free, environmentally friendly and virtually untraceable.<br /><br />Suggestion: Let the non-word go phorth that the unvoiced linguolabial trill of the Bronx Cheer will hereafter be let loose every time the name Hillary Clinton is mentioned. Bill, too.Jay–Ottawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10360356126450612113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-82281609464736741742016-06-21T18:42:36.619-04:002016-06-21T18:42:36.619-04:00I was in second grade when I learned that word. I ...I was in second grade when I learned that word. I still remember the name of the neighbor girl who uttered it. My dad hated it. We had to say "toot" when my sisters and I were growing up.<br /><br />I saw that Truthdig article and had a hard time believing it wasn't from The Onion (onions give me gas!).<br /><br />I'm in my 50s now. Four kids. Somehow, none of us are grossed out by the word or the act. <br /><br />I think this article (f)artfully expresses the utter disgust with the candidates and the election process in our faux democracy. And it makes me laugh.<br /><br />Farts are funny.Frau Fuerzenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-72028916911045672622016-06-21T18:11:43.209-04:002016-06-21T18:11:43.209-04:00@Meredith:
I totally agree that this was a bitter...@Meredith:<br /><br />I totally agree that this was a bitter, angry and immature post. It grossed me out as well. With a name like Sardonicky, I came to this site fully expectng the very highest levels of sober discourse. I am so bitterly, bitterly disappointed and disgusted.<br /><br />I also agree that Matt Taibbi is a much better and more serious writer.<br /><br />He totally nailed Ted Cruz when he described one of his speeches as a "cat fart." <br /><br />http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/r-i-p-gop-how-trump-is-killing-the-republican-party-20160518<br /><br />And who can ever forget the seminal article where he had Bush spilling the Bush Beans about how Condi Rice used to fart up a storm in the Oval Office?<br /><br />http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bush-apologizes-the-farewell-interview-we-wish-hed-give-20100405<br /><br />Meredith, how about you and me leaving this teenage gossip rag of a place and go spend some of our valuable time on "Maturity Today"? I hear they have tons of helpful articles on how to live with the embarrassment of chronic constipation. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Andy Taylornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-974773076690597683.post-49910887865112340232016-06-21T15:24:36.277-04:002016-06-21T15:24:36.277-04:00Karen....Now I’ll vent......With all your superb p...<br />Karen....Now I’ll vent......With all your superb powers of expression—really the best of the thousands of Times commenters—your anger, bitterness and disgust is making you offer this post of adolescent vulgarity. There are some teen web sites that would love it. <br /><br />And see this:<br />"The Return of Lesser Evilism<br />With Trump on the other side, Democrats can be lazier than ever this election" <br />BY MATT TAIBBI June 20.<br />He gets to the heart of the matter. Apply to Krugman, also.<br /><br /> <br />And now the Dem party is suddenly getting ‘diverse’ in platform committees, with some interesting progressives like Cornell West, Keith Ellison, and Bill McKibben, and others. <br />Any comment? <br />I only saw this on cspan, but not mentioned on msnbc or cnn unless i missed a brief mention. Should be widely discussed for contrast with the main party line. <br /> <br /><br /><br />Meredith NYCnoreply@blogger.com